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Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 13:40:08 -0400
From: Kathryn Wesley <kwesley@CLEMSON.EDU>
Subject: Re: Organic Gardening: title change?  again?

Anna,

The change to OG occurred in 2001 before the new rules regarding major and
minor changes went into effect.  At that time, when a title changed from
full form to acronym, a new record was required.  Since the new rules went
into effect (late 2002?), it's considered a minor change, and so does not
require a new record.

According to my teachers at the SCCTP advanced cataloging workshop on May
20-21, CONSER may collapse some older records, but will not do so if an
ISSN has been assigned.  That would mean that the record for OG, ISSN
1536-108X, should remain separate, but it's now ok to add a 246 for the
minor change:

246 1  $i Issues for May/June 2003-   called: $a Organic gardening

Kathryn Wesley

At 10:58 AM 6/9/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>I think you misunderstood me.  "OG" is the title according to the most
>current DLC record, however the past two issues have had the title
>"Organic Gardening".  My question is, do I use the new record for "Organic
>Gardening"?  As of today, 94 other libraries have listed it in their
>holding, but the record for "OG" is still open (and held by 707 libraries).
>
>Thank you to everyone who has responded, but I still am unsure about
>whether to go ahead and use the new record even though the old one is
>still open.  I understand that it is a minor change to go from the acronym
>to the full title, but even though it was a minor change to go from the
>full title to the acronym, a new record was created and used, apparently,
>and thus the source of my uncertainty.
>
>Anna Creech
>
>(reminding myself that in 1000 years, none of this will matter)

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Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 10:44:17 -0700
From: Carol Morse <MorsCa@wwc.edu>
Subject: Re: Organic Gardening: title change?  again?

They don't close the old record for some time after adding the new ones,
unfortunately.
Carol Morse

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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 11:15:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Shadle <shadle@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: Organic Gardening: title change?  again?

Hallie -- Responses to your questions.

> Even though the rules say you don't have to use a new record, can we
> have the choice to do so?

*Locally* you can do whatever you want.  I think there's already been one
suggestion to put all three titles (Organic gardening -> OG -> Organic
gardening) on one record.

> We like the new title and record because Organic Gardening is what the
> magazine is commonly known as. Our patrons and staff never got used to
> calling it OG, and now they don't have to.

It's unfortunate that Rodale decided to switch the name for a year and a
half, and it's also unfortunate that the timing of their latest change
came after the 2002 revisions.  However, there is an ISSN assigned to "OG"
so unless Rodale feels the title change should be recognized with a new
ISSN assignment (or NSDP assigns a new ISSN for the change), I'm not sure
there's anything to be done in the CONSER database.

#47358131 has been edited to reflect current practice.  --Steve

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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 15:05:42 EDT
From: RGildem550@aol.com
Subject: Re: Organic gardening title change

I am forwarding this message, which was sent to me rather than to SERIALST,
because the author, Jan Torbet, has been having trouble with her email program.
I forward this message with her permission.

Rick Gildemeister

In a message dated 6/4/2003 3:38:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,
jtorbet@sfpl.org writes:

>
> Dear Rick,
>
> I am the cataloguer who entered the record in OCLC. On page 2 of the
> May/June issue, the editor, Scott Meyer, stated "... we are simply Organic Gardening
> magazine again." Although the CCM 2002 16.2.2.c states "If a change is
> clearly minor according to AACR2, it is not treated as major even when the
> publisher makes it clear that the change was intentional.", LCRI 21.2A (Nov. 2002)
> counters with "...consider that there has been a major change if there is
> evidence that the publisher intentionally changed the title; such evidence may
> include, for example, a state by the publisher..."
>
>
>
> I followed the LCRI, mostly because I think that it is up to the publisher
> to determine what the title of their magazine is. CONSER may very well
> overrule me (although someone put a 936 note in the previous authenticated title
> stating that the publisher was changing the title with the May 2003 issue) and
> if so, I will change back then. But waiting for their final word can often
> take a long time, and I need to keep these magazines moving.
>
> Jan Torbet
> Serials Cataloguer
> San Francisco Public Library
> jtorbet@sfpl.org