Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 08:51:21 -0700
From: "Fatme Charafeddine" <fc01@aub.edu.lb>
To: "Kopycinski, Doreen" <dkopycinski@ursinus.edu>
Cc: "SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum" <SERIALST@list.uvm.edu>
Subject: Re: Seeking suggestions : Accessing online journals (Fatme Charafeddine)

Hi,

Yes it is ACS. I am for the group negotiation approach. How can we go
about that?
Through listserves or library associations ??

Please let's all interested work on that.

Thanks Doreen for the information about overseas institutions I will
try that.

Best Regards
Fatme

Fatme Charafeddine
Serials Librarian/Jafet Library
American University of Beirut
http://www.aub.edu.lb/
PO Box 11-0236
Beirut Lebanon
Fax 961 1 744 703
Tel. 961 1 350 000 (2608)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kopycinski, Doreen" <dkopycinski@ursinus.edu>
To: <fc01@aub.edu.lb>
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 7:15 AM
Subject: FW: Seeking suggestions : Accessing online journals (Fatme
Charafeddine)

> Greetings Fatme,
>
> In particular, are you talking about publications by the American Chemical
> Society?   I had talked with them about username/password access and was
> told that they only make such access available to institutions accessing
> from overseas--I wonder if this might be an affordable option for your
> institution.
>
> Hopefully, someone will have a valuable suggestion for us.  I'm sure we're
> not alone with this problem.  Maybe approaching the publisher as a group
> might do it!
>
> Take care,
> Doreen Kopycinski
>
> -----Original Message-----
>  Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 12:50:39 -0700
>  From: "Fatme Charafeddine" <fc01@aub.edu.lb>
>  Subject: Re: Seeking suggestions : Accessing online journals (Doreen
>       Kopycinski)
>
> We are struggling through this as well. We already use a proxy server.
> Because of the big change in price between a site wide and Class C IP
> access, we did not subscribe  for the e-access.
>

> We are looking for a way to pay by limiting the number of users rather
> than IP addresses. As you suggested to the publisher this could be
> through limiting  the User name/password or sim users or any other way
> that would limit the access to a specific number of users.  In our
> case we wouldn't need more than 50, why pay the campus wide fee with a
> the whole university FTE.
>
> Maybe we should contact the publisher as a group of institutions and ask
> for  a review of their policy.
>
> Fatme
>
> Fatme Charafeddine
> Serials Librarian/Jafet Library
> American University of Beirut
> http://www.aub.edu.lb/
> PO Box 11-0236
> Beirut Lebanon
> Fax 961 1 744 703
> Tel. 961 1 350 000 (2608)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 14:15:58 -0400
> > From: "Kopycinski, Doreen" <dkopycinski@ursinus.edu>
> > Subject: Seeking suggestions : Accessing online journals
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > We have subscriptions to several specialized (chemistry) online
> > journals. The publisher offers pricing options so that you can pay
> > per IP class C subnet.  We only have one IP registered which 1.)
> > saves us money, but  2.) limits our access (we can only have 256
> > concurrent users, which is fine
> > since we have less than 70 chemistry majors (even though we have other
> > science majors who could potentially use the resource, our school is
> > small enough such that it'd be a safe bet that we would never have 256
> > people concurrently using any of these journals).
> >
> > However, since our IPs are dynamic, a person who wishes to access the
> > resource has to be lucky enough to have been assigned the correct IP
> > when booting up their computer.
> >
> > We were hoping to use proxy software to solve this problem but the
> > publisher would charge us for campus-wide access (the difference in
> > cost between having one IP registered and having campus-wide access
> > gets into
> > the thousands) if we direct access to these journals through a proxy.
> >
> > We asked the publisher if we could utilize username/password access
> > but were told no.
> >
> > SO-the question is whether or not others might have experienced a
> > similar problem and what possible solutions there are as remedy.
> >
> > Your words of wisdom are greatly appreciated,
> >
> > Doreen Kopycinski
> >
> > /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
> >
> > Doreen Kopycinski
> > Technical Services Librarian
> > Myrin Library
> > Ursinus College
> > 601 East Main Street
> > Collegeville PA  19426
> > 610.409.3000  x2460
> > dkopycinski@ursinus.edu