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Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 19:17:24 -0800
From: Julie Esparza <julieesparza@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Institutional Access to Lancet Online
Dear friends:
Actually this was their policy starting in I think it
was February 2001. They always required registration
of users when it was free. Of course when I bought
our Institutional license I thought this would
disappear. I then learned that was not an option. I
know I normally complain about publishers charging
additional money for the same thing we have already
purchased but in this case I'll pay the $100 extra so
that I can give everyone access. It is cheaper than
paying for access through Ovid or another aggregator.
Julie
Julie Esparza
julieesparza@yahoo.com
Electronic Services Librarian
ECRI - a non-profit health research institute
Library
5200 Butler Pike
Plymouth Meeting, PA 19462
610-825-6000 Ext. 5184
http://www.ecri.org
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Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 08:52:51 -0500
From: Peter Picerno <ppicerno@NOVA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Institutional Access to Lancet Online
Ya know, sometimes it's just easier to say that the publisher's licensing
restrictions force institutional cancellation of online access!
P Picerno
Peter Picerno <ppicerno@NOVA.EDU>
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Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 08:51:56 -0600
From: Alfred Kraemer <akraemer@MCW.EDU>
Subject: Re: Institutional Access to Lancet Online
As far as I can tell the overwhelming number of users are unlikely to use
a password/login for a journal title. I'm pretty sure that there is ample
negative evidence from those publishers that have tried that approach. I
have asked some 'typical' users here about 'one-journal' passwords and
have heard this answer -or a similar one- most often: "We already have
between 5-10 passwords to remember and would not add a password/login that
only can be used for one journal - even if that journal is a key journal
in the field of interest."
I'm pretty sure that this 'new' attempt by 'The Lancet' is doomed to fail
because few users will set up a password/login and even fewer will us it
over a longer period of time.
Alfred Kraemer
Head, Technical Services
Medical College of Wisconsin Libraries
8701 Watertown Plank Road
Milwaukee, WI 53226
Phone: 414-456-4273
E-Mail: akraemer@mcw.edu
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 7:09 PM
To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU
From: "Martin W. Helgesen" <SHHCC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject: Institutional Access to Lancet Online
The Biomed librarian at my library just forwarded this to me from MEDLIB-L
>From: "Kleinmuntz, Dalia" <DKleinmuntz@ENH.ORG>
>Reply-To: "Kleinmuntz, Dalia" <DKleinmuntz@ENH.ORG>
>To: MEDLIB-L@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU
>Subject: Re: Institutional Access to Lancet Online
>Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 12:18:31 -0600
>
>Lancet apparently didn't "give up" on last year's attempt and is trying a
>new gimmick, that will give them a mailing list of users, statistics to
>prove how much money they are loosing, and how much libraries owe them.
>Marketing wonders never cease -
>
>Dalia at Evanston
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Margo Coletti
>[mailto:mcoletti@CAREGROUP.HARVARD.EDU]
>Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:59 AM
>To: MEDLIB-L@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU
>Subject: Institutional Access to Lancet Online
>
> Here's a new and bizarre twist that our serials librarian
>has come across (her report follows). This sounds like what Wiley was
>doing a couple of years ago (requiring endusers to register with the
>website even though the institution had a subscription). But it's
>even more intrusive: Lancet is demanding name, mail address and email
>address. Then the enduser must assign himself a username and password.
>
> A large number of complaints to Wiley put an end to the practice of
>requiring enduser registration. I'm suggesting strongly that this
>practice, if we are indeed understanding it correctly, be protested
>loudly and directly to Lancet. One question before I call London:
>Has anyone else received the same information as we have?
>
> Margo Coletti
> Medical Library Services Director
> Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center
> 330 Brookline Avenue
> Boston MA 02215
>
> phone (617) 667-4225 fax (617) 667-7197
> email: mcoletti@caregroup.harvard.edu
>
> ****************************************
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Silver,April D. (Clin Info, PaperChase, Z Clin Inf)
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:44 AM
>
> Our 2002 subscription for Lancet is for print with online
>access for multiple users. I called customer service in NY
>(1-800-462-6198) for help activating our multiple user access.
>Reading from instructions from the London Office, Bernice In
>Customer Service told me that institutions cannot post generic
>usernames and passwords on their web sites even with multiple
>use subscriptions. Each user must register, "claim access,." and
>create a different username and password. To register, each user
>must register with the subscription number and authentication code
>(registrants are instructed to ask their librarians for the numbers
> -- librarians get the numbers from Lancet by letter or telephone
>call), provide name, address, email address, position and medical
>specialty, and then create his or her own username and password.
>To avoid the step of having each patron supply the subscription
>number and authentication code, institutions can register IP
>address by emailing them to uslancetcs@elsevier.com. But even with
>IP registration each user must still register and create his or her
>own username and password.
>
> Bernice suggested that the library could register 4 or 5 times and
>create 4 or 5 usernames and passwords that could be posted on its
>website for patrons to use. But if patrons happened to try to use the
>same username and password at the same time they would get a message that
>the username and password were in use and not be able to log in. The
>person who devised this scenario is Katy Budgen in London. Her telephone
>number is 011442076114100. Bernice could not find an email address
for Katy.
>
>**********************************************
>(One more question: Does anyone have an email address for
>"Katy"? mhc)
Martin W. Helgesen shhcc@cunyvm.cuny.edu
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