4 messages, 184 lines: (1)--------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 09:11:25 -0700 From: Gretchen Olson <olson@LCLARK.EDU> Subject: Bindery Schedule We are inhouse binding still, but have taken the strategy of receiving alot of our titles on microfilm/fiche also. The film/fiche usually arrives 6-18 mos after the publication date, depending on the title. Having the material on film/fiche solves the problem of missing issues and the necessity of binding holding up for an extended period of time. One of the key issues you face if you rely on the online for your archiving is that you don't own the issues- you simply have access to them online. So, if you rely on the online for your archiving and dispose of your hardcopy volumes, what do you do when the publisher starts raising the access rates through the ceiling? They would really have you over a barrel if you rely on the online as your sole archiving- and what happens if you don't have the budget? Just a few issues to consider. Gretchen Olson Serials Specialist Aubrey Watzek Library Lewis & Clark College 0615 SW Palatine Hill Rd. Portland, OR 97219 <olson@LCLARK.EDU> (2)--------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 11:42:58 -0500 From: Sarah Tusa <Tusa@ALMARK.LAMAR.EDU> Organization: Lamar University Subject: Journal binding Hi, I normally respond to the individual who posted the query, and not to the list, but since this discussion is already in progress, I will throw my two-cents in here. I have never heard of the notion that print journals are only expected to last for a matter of months. We have several very old journals for whose articles we still get Interlibrary Loan requests. Sure, a lot of periodicals backfile is available online now, but not every library can afford to pay for databases such as JSTOR, especially when it duplicates much of what they already have in their stacks. (Sure, eventually more of us will free up the shelf space and subscribe to more aggregate electronic journal collections, but right now many of us are still binding the paper journals we have, and though usage of print materials is declining as more of the budget goes into electronic databases, people are still using the old bound journals, which by the way have not crumbled into pieces yet, except for certain grades of paper.) I'm sure binding will eventually be phased out in favor of electronic archiving, but our annual binding budget is still less than the cost of many electronic journal collections/databases. Sarah Tusa Interim Coordinator of Acquisitions Lamar University fax: 409-880-8225 tel: 409-880-8125 email: Tusa@almark.lamar.edu (3)--------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 11:45:19 -0500 From: Susan Andrews <Susan_Andrews@TAMU-COMMERCE.EDU> Subject: Re: Bindery & Copiers With regard to the first question, we have decided (although not actually started to do it) that when we need to save budget money and want to save a few journal subscriptions, we will start to not bind titles that have good reliable archiving online. I actually don't have a problem with this idea. You can still keep the issues in paper, but you save the binding money and use it where it might be better spent and you still have the archived issues online. A win win situation. As to question #2: We do have some copiers that are glass-to-the-edge. However, it was a fluke that we do. Unfortunately, the buyer of the copiers for this campus has nothing to do with the library and does not bother to consult with the library, as a rule, no matter how we scream and yell and/or plead (in spite of the fact that we get the largest number of copiers, are the biggest users of any copiers on campus, and our use frequently pays for most of the other copiers on campus). On the other hand, we also have copiers that have the paper outside of the machine where anyone can (and do) snatch a few (or many) sheets of paper at will. I wish you luck on this problem. Our copiers are a major source of frustration to us. At least I know that we are not alone with that problem. I don't know if any of this is helpful to you, but at least you know that you are not entirely alone now, either. Susan Andrews Head, Serials Librarian Texas A&M University-Commerce <Susan_Andrews@TAMU-COMMERCE.EDU> (4)--------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 14:12:38 -0300 From: Valerie Mickelberg <mickel@IS.DAL.CA> Subject: Re: Bindery Schedule Hi All: Well I would advise you to think twice about not binding your journals as the price of online subscriptions are on the rise. I pay for the journals in our library and I can tell you that each year when you renew you have to be careful of the backfile dates that are supplied as sometimes the years of coverage change. We are still binding our journals but of course we are in the question stage of all this on whether to cancel our print subscription and just get the electronic. We are testing this with one of our titles now. In the future you may find out that the backfiles are no longer available online or are set at a price that is your library can't afford. Also some microfilm companies are dropping titles that publishers don't want them to provide as they know we will be then forced to buy their electronic. I supervise the Microform Collection in our library and it is still being used by researchers as not everything is available electronically. The microfilm also has a long shelf life. Good luck! Mrs. Valerie Reashor Asst. Head of Serials Unit Dalhouse University Libraries (Killam) Halifax, NS B3H 4H8 Phone: (902) 494-3637 (902) 494-3649 Fax (902) 494-2062 E-Mail mickel@is.dal.ca ************************************************************************ On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, Max Shenk wrote: > Here's a question for you all: > > We had a consultant come in this week and he was amazed that we actually > bind as much as we do. "The half-life of a lot of these magazines is just > 6 months to begin with," he said, "and then a lot of these periodicals are > available in full-text online." He suggested that we make a concerted > effort to look into what we bind unnecessarily. It got us looking in a > different direction. Anyone else running into this? How much are you NOT > binding because the online resources have rendered the bound volumes > obsolete and unnecessary? > > Another question: how many of you have glass-to-the-edge photocopiers? Our > consultant was amazed, appalled, even, that we do not have a > glass-to-the-edge photocopier. (Our copiers are handled by an outside > vendor; said vendor has graced us with snazzy new state-of-the-art digital > copiers which jam frequently and really are not designed for the kind of > copying or the frequency of copying the students do here.) > > So I guess that's TWO questions, eh? > > Max Shenk > Periodicals Assistant > Montgomery County (PA) Community College Library > <MShenk@MC3.EDU> > > On Wed, 10 Oct 2001, Glenda Alvin wrote: > > > Our Acquistions and Serials Departments recently merged under my > > supervision. This is the first time I have directly supervised serials > > and I trying to set up a bindery schedule for the periodicals. I had > > the library assistant identify the frequency of check-in----weekly, > > monthly, bi-monthly, etc., > > > > Is there any standard schedule for when periodicals should be sent to > > the bindery, such as all of the weeklies (e.g. Time, Newsweek) should > > go every 3 months? I would really appreciate suggestions. Thank you. > > > > Glenda Alvin > > Head, Acquisitions and Serials > > Tennessee State University > > Nashville, TN > > <galvin@TNSTATE.EDU>