---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:47:40 -0500 From: Peter Picerno <ppicerno@UTMEM.EDU> Subject: Re: Disappearing microform titles (Dan Lester) I feel compelled to add my support to what Mr. Lester says in his reply to Mr Henderson. It seems to me that Mr Henderson has repeatedly accused university administrators of secreting away vast hordes of money which they are purposefully and malevolently taking from libraries (and not from other campus departments as well?). As most of us who work in libraries know, whether we are in state or private institutions, many academic departments suffer equally with libraries in being under-funded, under-staffed, under-recognized, etc., and few of them have the resources they need, or would to have, in order to operate fully or well. One of the realities of the world we live in is that academia, like the arts, it not a capitalist, self-supporting, profit-making venture: funds must come from endowments where that is possible (in the case of some state and many private institutions), tuition, other student fees, state support, and grants of various kinds. Historically the arts and education have not been self-supporting. Yet academia has become increasingly tied to a capitalist model and is expected to generate income and be self-supporting to a greater extent than ever before; and since this is a reality with which we have to live, things like budget cuts, justifications for expenditures, and the need to trim non-essential materials or facilities is a part of the academic world -- for better or worse. Within this framework, then, it is obvious that the immediate use and impact of library materials will be as strong a criterion for their acquisition as will be their cost. And is this bad, in any case? If we live in a truly capitalist world, and information, like everything else, is a priced commodity, then we as the 'consumers' of this commodity have every right to refuse its acquisition based on selection policies which are based on such criteria as price, quality, and usefulness, regardless of it's impact on a library's "social status." Librarians ought, indeed, are mandated, to select -- judiciously and deliberately -- those sources of information which will most satisfy the needs of the community which the institution supports. What this also means is that publishers who increase prices year after year at a rate which doubles or triples that of the cost of living, will beome increasingly suspect -- as they should -- as to the essential usefulness of their product. At a certain point, their product will either become too costly in relation to its content or too esoteric and narrow for use and libraries will find, perhaps reluctantly, that they don't need or can't afford this particular product especially when weighed against other products which may prove to be more cost-effective. Libraries are under no obligation to blindly and blithely acquire everything that is published simply because it is published. That's what the whole field of collection development, acquisitions, and serials is about. The use of the word 'selection' in Selection Policy implies scrutiny, evaluation, and decision. Since we live in an era where there is more information available in more formats and with more immediacy than ever before in the history of the world, "selection" becomes ever more important because the stakes are higher than ever before. Unfettered and unrestrained, a library could very easily become a black hole, insatiable in its need for funds, staff, buildings, equipment, and other infrastructures needed to support a gluttonous appetite for acquiring information. Libraries, even research libraries, I believe, exist first and foremost to support the learning and research endeavors of the academic communities which they serve. They do not, insofar as I know, exist solely to devour, on speculation, every byte or page which commerical (and some 'learned society') publishers, who are, incidentally, strictly captialist ventures, spew forth into the world of high-pressure telemarketing sales persons whose livelihood depends on forcing their publications onto the shelves of every library in civilization. Contrary to what Mr. Henderson seems to indicate, neither libraries nor academia exists in order to keep publshers in business. Like Mr. Lester, I would like Mr. Henderson to show us the vast rooms of gold, silver, and dollars, which he alleges university administrators are hiding away! Peter V. Picerno ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:47:57 -0600 From: Dan Lester <dan@riverofdata.com> Subject: Re: Disappearing microform titles (Albert Henderson Monday, September 10, 2001, 6:05:03 PM, you wrote: > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 10:22:22 -0400 > From: Albert Henderson <chessNIC@COMPUSERVE.COM> > The institutions who wish to continue to claim the > social status accorded by having excellent cultural > resources better do it, even if it means dipping into > the misers' treasury. I'd love to find where that special treasury is in a state supported institution. > scratches the surface. There are at least three studies > that I can cite demonstrating that the major libraries > simply are not acquiring most new knowledge that > is published in academic disciplines. Moreover, the ACRL True enough. Not many of us would argue that. As always, you keep talking about these secret treasuries. I suppose they may exist in some wealthy private colleges, but they sure don't in state institutions. If you know where one is in Idaho, let me know and we'll give you a finder's fee. > standards for college libraries once called for 6% of > general and educational expenditures to go to the library. > I never heard of any institution losing its accreditation > by not meeting that test. The ACRL standards don't have anything to do with accreditation by the regional accrediting agencies. I believe all, and certainly most, of the regional agencies have dropped quantitative measures for such. > Nearly all should have been > red-tagged. Why was this and other finite measures dropped? Because institutions that are otherwise considered excellent didn't meet the magic numbers. > There is nothing lucrative about formats that libraries are > not buying. Most periodical publishers trash their overrun. No argument. > You want them to maintain and continuously upgrade, probably > with multiple formats, for free. I, at least, would be happy with only one format for scholarly journals. Electronic, in PDF or other pretty format, plus ASCII text and any other ways that may be considered more "permanent". No, ASCII doesn't make it more expensive. > Electronic technology does > not save money, as is pointed out repeatedly by Andrew W > Mellon Foundatation studies in TECHNOLOGY & SCHOLARLY > COMMUNICATION (Quandt & Ekman. U Calif Press). It sure doesn't cost more. It doesn't waste paper. It doesn't waste space. It is easily distributed. It is easily distributed on paper for those who want print. > Library impoverishment is more lucrative for universities, > of course. By cutting library spending by a point, the > higher education institutsions added a point to surplus > revenues. Two more points to go. Lucrative for universities my foot. Where is all that lucre going? Where will you find it? Will you come to Idaho and find some for me and my library? Please? Let's get away from talking about wealthy private universities and talk about the majority of the real world, those that are supported by taxpayers. (NOTE, I'm not suggesting that private universities are doing what you say....I don't know....I just know about the public ones) dan -- Dan Lester, Data Wrangler dan@RiverOfData.com 3577 East Pecan, Boise, Idaho 83716-7115 USA www.riverofdata.com www.gailndan.com Stop Global Whining!