----------(1) >>From janice.white@FCT-CF.GC.CA Tue Oct 3 12:44:43 2000 Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 08:31:18 -0400 From: Janice White <janice.white@FCT-CF.GC.CA> Subject: Haworth Press journals (Carol Morse) -Reply Hi Carol Thanks for the head's up on that pricing. I went to check the few journals we do subscribe to and was relieved to see that the Institutional price and the Library price on them were identical. I wonder why the journals you saw and some others I checked out, had such a huge descrepancy between the 2 types of subscriptions. It begs a question to the company directly, to account for such a price fluctuation. I thought libraries should have a better rate than an institution, but it seems that is a thing of the past. Janice White Acquisitions Assistant Federal Court of Canada Library ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 22:06:12 -0700 From: Carol Morse <MorsCa@WWC.EDU> Subject: Haworth Press journals I just noticed in browsing the Haworth catalog online that there are 3 prices for their subscriptions!: individual, institutional and libraries. For example Clinical Supervisor is listed at $60, 200, and 400 respectively; Social Thought at $40, 75, and 125, and Journal of Gerontological Social Work at $50, 65, and 325! I was not aware of this because I take my price information from Ebsconet, which lists the library price, since they deal with libraries. I think this is horrendous, it's price-gouging. Since when were libraries not institutions? Does anyone know of other presses that do this? Is there anything to be done? We would have a hard time boycotting this publisher since we need their titles for our Social Work program. Any thoughts? Carol ******************************************************************************** Carol Morse Tel. 509) 527-2684 Serials Librarian Fax 509) 527-2001 Walla Walla College Library Email morsca@wwc.edu 104 S.W. Adams St. College Place, WA 99324-1195 Give us strength for the journey and wisdom to know the way. ******************************************************************************** ----------(2) >>From HAIMOVSKY@FORDHAM.EDU Tue Oct 3 12:44:43 2000 Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 08:51:02 -0400 From: Kira Haimovsky <HAIMOVSKY@FORDHAM.EDU> Subject: Re: Haworth Press journals (Carol Morse) I have my eye on the Haworth Press for many outrageous things, including high prices and the way they add additional volumes in the middle of the year and ask for additional huge payment. Their journals have very irregular frequencies and they change titles without any regard to logic. I wish we could get all serials people together and could do something to change their behavior. Kira Haimovsky Head of Serials Dept Fordham University Libraries ----------(3) >>From ssturgeo@SALEMSTATE.EDU Tue Oct 3 12:44:43 2000 Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 09:09:13 -0400 From: Susan E. Sturgeon <ssturgeo@SALEMSTATE.EDU> Subject: Re: Haworth Press journals (Carol Morse) Everything about this publisher is outrageous! Their other favorite trick, as you know, is to combine numbers so that you actually get many fewer issues than advertised. But they do get into niches that are essential to academia, even though I think their content is a little thin as well. I don't know what is to be done, but I think that they have treated us so badly for years that it may be time to reciprocate. You can't go to jail for storing individual subscriptions in the library, can you? SUSAN STURGEON SERIALS DEPARTMENT SALEM STATE COLLEGE LIBRARY 352 LAFAYETTE ST. SALEM MA 01970 NEW E-mail address:susan.sturgeon@salem.mass.edu ----------(4) >>From lstevens@RMWC.EDU Tue Oct 3 12:44:43 2000 Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 09:02:16 -0400 From: Lynne Stevens <lstevens@RMWC.EDU> Subject: Re: Haworth Press journals (Carol Morse) With regard to subscription price differentiation, Carol Morse asked the question, "Since when were libraries not institutions?" It occurs to me that perhaps it is assumed that an institutional copy would be circulated within a department, while a library copy would have a much larger circulation. My guess entirely; it would be useful to get Haworth's definitions. Lynne N. Stevens Serials Coordinator Lipscomb Library Randolph-Macon Woman's College 2500 Rivermont Avenue Lynchburg, VA 24503 804 947-8133 lstevens@rmwc.edu ----------(5) >>From rickand@UNR.EDU Tue Oct 3 12:44:43 2000 Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 08:03:23 -0700 From: Rick Anderson <rickand@UNR.EDU> Subject: Re: Haworth Press journals (Carol Morse) > I think this is horrendous, it's price-gouging. Since when were libraries > not institutions? Without defending the practice, I think I can see the difference in Haworth's mind. To them, an "institution" is probably an organization that will circulate its copy within the prescribed ambit of its employees. A library, on the other hand, has an outreach mission, and will actively encourage a large population to use its copy. If Haworth is setting its prices based on the potential number of readers for each copy, then it makes sense to distinguish between libraries and other institutions. (Hold your flames: I'm _not_ saying that it's smart or wise to set prices this way.) Rick ------------- Rick Anderson Electronic Resources/Serials Coordinator The University Libraries University of Nevada, Reno 1664 No. Virginia St. Reno, NV 89557 PH (775) 784-6500 x273 FX (775) 784-1328 rickand@unr.edu
