2 messages, 166 lines: (1)--------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:49:34 -0500 From: Anne Frohlich <frohlich@MAIL.MCNEESE.EDU> Subject: Re: Holdings Lists: include electronic? We put our holdings list on the web and also print about 15 copies for the library. At this point I do not think it is quick and easy for our students to find holdings information when they have citations in aggregator databases. We hope that students working from home will be able to check our holdings before they come to the library. Our holdings list: http://www.mcneese.edu/library/depts/serials/biged/list.htm At the start the web list was pasted from Microsoft Word. It looks exactly like the printed version does. We have also put our lists of journals by department on the web: http://www.mcneese.edu/library/depts/serials/dept/deptlist.htm This comes from my Access database, transferred to Microsoft Word, then to HTML. We have only included in the holdings list a few electronic journals that we order direct. I feel that the situation with "free" or "free with print" is too uncertain for the work involved. We do catalog the ejournals that we subscribe to. I expect that when our journal databases show clearly which journals McNeese has we will consider no longer printing a journal holdings list. Anne Frohlich, Serials Librarian McNeese State University Library Box 91445 Lake Charles, LA 70609 Phone: 337-475-5741 1-800-622-3352 x5741 Fax: 337-475-5719 http://www.mcneese.edu/library/ (2)--------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:20:27 -0500 From: Buddy Pennington <buddy.pennington@ROCKHURST.EDU> Subject: Re: Holdings Lists: include electronic? (2 messages) Kendall, We put our holdings into an Access database and then I created an ASP page that allows users to search that database and display the results using a search form. Look at: http://www.rockhurst.edu/3.0/services_and_resources/library/interactive/Maes tro/index.asp. It is relatively easy to download the FT holdings from the vendor's websites for databases. We have holdings information for ProQuest, Academic Universe, JSTOR, and a host of FirstSearch databases. I update the electronic info twice per year, and it usually takes a couple of hours to do. Buddy Pennington Acquisitions/Serials Librarian Rockhurst University Greenlease Library buddy.pennington@rockhurst.edu #816-501-4143 -----Original Message----- From: Birdie MacLennan [mailto:bmaclenn@zoo.uvm.edu] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 3:11 PM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: Re: Holdings Lists: include electronic? (2 messages) 2 messages, 97 lines: (1)----------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:07:39 -0400 From: Steven Murden <stevemurden@MINDSPRING.COM> Subject: Re: Holdings list including electronic In response to Tracey's query, how about a radical solution? Stop doing a separate print holdings list of periodicals. You are _always_ going to run into the problem of what to include. Current only? Ceased/cancelled subscriptions? Microform? And now, electronic? Does your library maintain a separate print list of monographs? How about sound recordings? Videos? Why do we have this persistent urge to create more work for ourselves? Library users, especially in an academic environment, need to learn how to use the online catalog to do research. Unless your electronic titles are not included in your catalog (and why wouldn't they be?), the answer to "Do you have journal title X?" is right there, online. Before the flames start, I understand that the situation might be very different in public, school, and special libraries, and even in a community college or small college library. For a large university library, the cost of creating, maintaining, and printing such a list seems a poor use of limited resources. Steve Murden librarian without portfolio (no caveats needed, because there's no institution to protect) (2)--------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:13:05 -0500 From: Kendall Vance <KVance@MAIL.WCC.CC.IL.US> Subject: Re: Holdings Lists: include electronic? (4 messages) If possible, would anyone else who has implemented a holdings list on their website please provide the URL, along with comments/suggestions you might offer to anyone attempting the same? The few that have been posted here to day have been helpful. I am considering ways to improve ours <http://library.wcc.cc.il.us/web/holdings/ <http://library.wcc.cc.il.us/web/holdings/> > , both by streamlining the interface, and by incorporating our electronic serials, but am more-or-less stumped at the moment. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Kendall Vance Periodicals Mgmt. Asst. Waubonsee Community College-Todd Library Route 47 at Harter Rd. Sugar Grove, IL 60554 Ph# 630.466.7900 x2333 Fax# 630.466.7799 kvance@mail.wcc.cc.il.us <mailto:Kvance@mail.wcc.cc.il.us> -----Original Message----- From: Tracey DeLillo [mailto:tdelillo@FALCON.TAMUCC.EDU] Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 9:32 PM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: Holdings Lists: include electronic? I am in need of some input/advice regarding Holdings Lists for periodicals. I am in the process of revising our current Periodicals Holdings List, and had decided to create 2 separate lists: one for print and microfilm holdings (i.e. items housed IN the library), and one for full-text electronic holdings. Our old PHL had combined everything into one massive list, which was nicely and expensively professionally printed, and was largely obsolete within a month due to changes in databases and other online availability. The other problem I encounter daily with this comprehensive list, is that patrons come to my office to complain that, for example, "Private Placement Reporter" isn't on the shelves, because they don't notice that it says "ELECTRONIC, LEXIS-NEXIS" underneath instead of "PERIODICAL SHELVES". These are just two of my favorite reasons for deciding to split the lists. Some of my coworkers, however, have concerns about my plan. They feel that the patrons won't like having to look 2 separate places to see where they can get an article. They think it will be time consuming and confusing. They are afraid that patrons will be misled regarding our holdings and will be disgruntled, not to mention an expected increase in unnecessary I.L.L. requests for materials we really do have access to. I am now in a quandry. How do other libraries format their PHL's? Are electronic sources listed? Are they combined with print, or listed separately? Are the PHL's available in hardcopy, or are they only online? Any input will be greatly appreciated. Feel free to email me directly, or post to the list if others think this is of broad interest. Thanks in advance, Tracey DeLillo Serials Librarian Texas A&M - Corpus Christi <tdelillo@FALCON.TAMUCC.EDU>