4 messages, 164 lines: (1)--------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 08:50:54 +0200 From: Eliane Chaney <Eliane.Chaney@CERN.CH> Subject: Re: Holdings Lists: include electronic? For the last 4 years we opted for 2 records for periodicals held in both formats print and available online. In our online catalogue, you find records of the same title linked and referring to one another. A list of e-journals and tables of contents services is generated from the catalogue. As for the hard copy of the periodicals holdings list, we have split it into 2 parts: the Online and the Printed collections. I must say that i have heard some negative comments concerning people who forget to check in the two parts when looking for a title! http://library.cern.ch/ http://weblib.cern.ch/Home/Library_Catalogue/Periodicals_and_Progress_Reports/?nm=1 http://library.cern.ch/electronic_journals/ej.html Eliane Chaney Serials librarian CERN Library CH - 1211 Geneva 23 Switzerland <Eliane.Chaney@CERN.CH> (2)-------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 08:47:14 -0400 From: Gerre Wescott <wescott@LYCOMING.EDU> Subject: Re: Holdings Lists: include electronic? Tracey Our phl is in two places: a big printout and on the library web page. I update the material in the database almost daily and immediately mount the edited pages on the web. The paper copy is updated once a semester. We have 23 hard copies that float around from the first floor reference area to the third floor periodicals back files. Everything is in one list. The online materials say 'ANAEROBE (computer file)' in the title line; the holdings line repeats the info in a different way in case the patron doesn't 'get' it: 'v.2,1996 to current issue available online'. On the web, hitting 'online' takes the patron to the journal. I probably didn't need to explain that to you :) My personal feeling is that one list with everything in it is preferable to two lists. but that's just me. Gerre Gerre Wescott Periodicals Technician Snowden Library Lycoming College 700 College Place Williamsport PA 17701-5192 570-321-4089 - phone 570-321-4090 - fax <wescott@LYCOMING.EDU> (3)--------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 08:16:41 -0500 From: Dena Luce <dluce@FAULKNER.EDU> Subject: Re: Holdings Lists: include electronic? Tracey, we stopped producing a holdings list in print. We simply direct our patrons to the online catalog. Otherwise, we show them the print indexes and the databases and explain that many titles are available full text but for those that are not, they will want to check them in the catalog to see if we carry them. It's not ideal but we got tired of trying to keep the print version updated. Dena Luce <dluce@FAULKNER.EDU> (4)----------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:07:21 -0500 From: Buddy Pennington <buddy.pennington@ROCKHURST.EDU> Subject: Re: Holdings Lists: include electronic? Something that a lot of libraries are doing is putting this information into the OPAC or putting it up on the web in a separate database. I have heard of libraries importing the records for FT databases into the OPAC using a PERL script and a program from the Library of Congress that can create MARC records in mass quantities. I have preferred to go the second route, however, because we are a consortium of 25 libraries in Kansas City, but we get databases the other library's do not. What I did was download the FT database information from vendor websites (we get ProQuest, Academic Universe, JSTOR, and FirstSearch) into an Access database. We also have our library holdings in the Access database. I then used ASP to create a page with a search form that interfaces that database and displays the results. Have a look at: http://www.rockhurst.edu/3.0/services_and_resources/library/interactive/Maestro/index.asp. This allows one stop shopping from within the library or outside the library as well and is more searchable than a print list where titles are listed in alphabetical order. It took me about a month to learn ASP enough to write the script needed. Twice per year, I download new lists from the FT database vendors. We can also make changes as needed anytime someone finds something that is incorrect. I really believe that this is the way to go. Print lists are too limiting for our users. We have the technology, we should be using it. If you are bent on using a print list, I would definitely list electronic journals and I would put it on one list with your library's holdings. You are spending big bucks on the databases and you need to get users to realize that those journals are available electronically. If you leave the databases out, that will require that users first know all of the FT databases available, and then require them to search each and every one to determine if the journal they need is available in FT. Having the information on a list, whether print or electronic, is so much easier on everyone. Buddy Pennington Acquisitions/Serials Librarian Rockhurst University Greenlease Library buddy.pennington@rockhurst.edu #816-501-4143 -----Original Message----- From: Tracey DeLillo [mailto:tdelillo@FALCON.TAMUCC.EDU] Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 9:32 PM To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: Holdings Lists: include electronic? I am in need of some input/advice regarding Holdings Lists for periodicals. I am in the process of revising our current Periodicals Holdings List, and had decided to create 2 separate lists: one for print and microfilm holdings (i.e. items housed IN the library), and one for full-text electronic holdings. Our old PHL had combined everything into one massive list, which was nicely and expensively professionally printed, and was largely obsolete within a month due to changes in databases and other online availability. The other problem I encounter daily with this comprehensive list, is that patrons come to my office to complain that, for example, "Private Placement Reporter" isn't on the shelves, because they don't notice that it says "ELECTRONIC, LEXIS-NEXIS" underneath instead of "PERIODICAL SHELVES". These are just two of my favorite reasons for deciding to split the lists. Some of my coworkers, however, have concerns about my plan. They feel that the patrons won't like having to look 2 separate places to see where they can get an article. They think it will be time consuming and confusing. They are afraid that patrons will be misled regarding our holdings and will be disgruntled, not to mention an expected increase in unnecessary I.L.L. requests for materials we really do have access to. I am now in a quandry. How do other libraries format their PHL's? Are electronic sources listed? Are they combined with print, or listed separately? Are the PHL's available in hardcopy, or are they only online? Any input will be greatly appreciated. Feel free to email me directly, or post to the list if others think this is of broad interest. Thanks in advance, Tracey DeLillo Serials Librarian Texas A&M - Corpus Christi <tdelillo@FALCON.TAMUCC.EDU>