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Subject: Re: Scholarly Publishing Principles -- David Goodman
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 21:47:43 -0600
From: Dan Lester <dan@riverofdata.com>
Reply-To: Dan Lester <dan@riverofdata.com>
Organization: RiverOfData.com
>

Tuesday, June 13, 2000, 11:24:18 AM, you wrote:

> Not that all who want to should not do research--we merely need a
> radically less expensive way of publishing it. We now have such a way. So the
> remaining step is for academic institutions to accept peer reviewed publications
> regardless of format, and accept other modes of peer review than that by
> journal referees, and thus judge work by the quality of the work, not by
> the expense put into the publication of the results.

I agree completely.  However, as a published and tenured professor who
has served on many selection, promotion, and tenure committees, I'm
not very hopeful that these changes will come about quickly or easily.
They should happen now, but I'll be amazed if such are widely adopted
before I retire in five to ten years.

cheers

dan

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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Scholarly Publishing Principles -- Jeanette Skwor
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 21:52:03 -0600
From: Dan Lester <dan@riverofdata.com>
Reply-To: Dan Lester <dan@riverofdata.com>
Organization: RiverOfData.com

Wednesday, June 14, 2000, 3:09:19 PM, you wrote:

>> > I find it difficult to explain five- and six-figure journal
>> > subscription prices to parents and students who are piling up large
>> > debts to pay tuition.
>>
>> I've not seen any six figure prices yet

> ***According to an article in the June issue of _College & Research
> Libraries News_, the _Journal of Comparative Neurology_ went from $1920
> in
> 1985 to a current $15,000.

 No argument.  And Brain and a number of other journals are also have
five figure prices.  However, they are not SIX figure prices.

dan
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