---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 19:12:53 +0200
From: Batya Malik <malikb@MAIL.BIU.AC.IL>
Subject: Re: Online access with print institutional subscriptions (Julie
              Simoneaux)

Here in Israel we have formed a consortium of seven Academic institutions,
which entitles us to a discount, and also gives each University electronic
access to journals to which they do not subscribe.  It's worth trying to
do it this way.

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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:46:04 -0500
> From: "Simoneaux, Julie" <jsimoneaux@ECRI.ORG>
> Subject: Online access with print institutional subscriptions
>
> Hello friends,
>
> I know this has been discussed before but I'm frustrated and want to bring
> it up again.
>
> I am currently going through the 1100 journals that we receive and trying to
> register as many as possible for online access.
>
> I am frustrated because Lippincott, Williams and Wilkins, Mosby, and Mary
> Ann Liebert (to name a few) are charging additional fees for online
> institutional access to titles they publish. I know that I should not be
> surprised that they are charging additional money for a site license. I am
> just surprised that libraries can afford these fees.
>
> How do you justify paying for the information twice?I know, as a
> non-profit there will be no way we will be able to pay for a journal twice.
> Do you have statistics or demands from faculty or researchers?Are you
> getting discountsbecause you are part of large systems?Or are you cutting
> print subscriptions to pay for these titles?
>
> It seems that we are allowing the publishers to dictate everything.The
> publishers are justifying the costs because the electronic systems are new
> or because more people can use them.I think that is a bunch of junk.  Is
> there a way we can force publishers to cut down on costs?I know our
> researches want our library to purchase titles so they don't have to pay for
> memberships.We then pay a higher cost because we pay the institutional
> rate for the journal.Isn't that enough to begin with for more people to
> use the title?Why even more when we want online access?
>
> I know there are no answers to many of these questions.I just hate the
> fact that publishers who don't even care enough about their product to
> promise archiving the material online are still controlling us.No
> guarantees from them ever.
>
> Oh well, any help on how your institution is justifying the cost would be
> appreciated,
>
> Julie
>
> (My opinion is my own.My email messages do not reflect the opinion of
> ECRI.)
>
> Julia Simoneaux (jsimonea@ecri.org)
> Serials Librarian
> ECRI, a not-for-profit health services research agency
> 5200 Butler Pike, Plymouth Meeting, PA 19462
> (610) 825-6000 V Ext. 5184
> (610) 834-7366 F
>
>
> Julia Simoneaux (jsimonea@ecri.org)
> Serials Librarian
> ECRI, a not-for-profit health services research agency
> 5200 Butler Pike, Plymouth Meeting, PA 19462
> (610) 825-6000 V Ext. 5184
> (610) 834-7366F
>