-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Serials Holdings Lists -- 2 messages Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 08:35:43 -0600 From: "Pennington, Buddy" <buddy.pennington@rockhurst.edu> Concerning subfield Z of the 856 field. Can you have multiple 856 fields in a single MARC record, 1 for each library that has access to that database? For example, say four different libraries have access to the same electronic journal through the same database, but they have different URLs with different passwords. Could you have four 856 fields in a single MARC record, or would you have 4 separate MARC records? Either way, wouldn't that be confusing to the average user? I agree that all your holdings information, including electronic serials, should be centralized into an OPAC, but until it becomes as easy for me to input 15,000 records for electronic serials into our OPAC as it is for me to create using MS Access and webpages, we will continue to use the second method. As I said before, I can create a database of electronic holdings (around 15,000, including our library's physical holdings) that is accessible to our users via ASP pages in an afternoon. I simply cannot fathom how I can do the same thing in our OPAC. Buddy Pennington Acquisitions/Serials Librarian Rockhurst University Greenlease Library buddy.pennington@rockhurst.edu #816-501-4143 -----Original Message----- 2 messages: 1)------------------------------ -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Serials Holdings Lists -- Carol Morse Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:07:39 -0400 From: David Goodman <dgoodman@princeton.edu> Reply-To: dgoodman@princeton.edu Organization: Princeton University Biology Library It seems to me that it is almost as important to list the titles in Proquest, Ebscohost, etc that you never received as the ones you cancelled in paper, and certainly more impt than listing the ones you still get in paper also. I hope you are including only the ones that are true full text complete with the figures, rather than text-only pseudo-full text. Btw, it is very easy to post WP files on the Web. (This said, you're still ahead of us for Proquest etc) -- David Goodman Biology Librarian, and Co-Chair, Electronic Journals Task Force Princeton University Library dgoodman@princeton.edu http://www.princeton.edu/~biolib/ phone: 609-258-3235 fax: 609-258-2627 2)------------------------- -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Serials Holdings Lists -- Puddy Pennington Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:51:55 -0500 From: "Fiander, P. Michelle" <mfiander@IUPUI.EDU> Some librarys must use a print list due to an ineffective serials module; this is a reality that cannot be helped. But for those libraries which have a functioning serials module, it should be used. Remote patrons are becoming more and more common; the library as place is being circumvented by many students and faculty members. Print serials lists make it difficult for the remote user to do research using a library's resources. If a library chooses to offer a print list, perhaps it should do so in addition to entering records in the catalog. Electronic resources are developing rapidly and our users now have more places (via more interfaces) to look for information than ever before. Given this, I don't think we need to present users with one more place to look. As to using a web page to provide a list of journals, it's a good alternative if no serials module exists and it is a fine idea to provide an alternative method of accessing resources. On the whole, however, if we do not enter all materials in our catalog, we run the risk of making the catalog an obsolete tool. Re. not putting electronic records in the catalog in a consortial situation, why not use the $z of the 856 to identify the URL to authorized users? That's what we're doing here--identifying URLs available to our students, as opposed to Bloomington, by putting IUPUI in the 856 $z. If records for electronic materials are not entered in the catalog, I think we're on a slippery slope to making the catalog obsolete....she said again...repetitive, arent' I? ********************************* Michelle Fiander IUPUI University Library 755 West Michigan Street Indianapolis, IN 46202 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Serials Holdings Lists -- Carol Morse Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 08:48:53 -0600 From: "Pennington, Buddy" <buddy.pennington@rockhurst.edu> I agree that it is easier to look up titles in a print list...if you have the print list in front of you. What do you do about users who are not in the building? When I used the library in college, I almost always did my citation searching at home and looked up the journals to see if they were available, before I went to the library. I know a lot of users do this as well. I don't like the idea of putting electronic information into the OPAC because I do not find our OPAC's serials module easy to use, plus we are in a consortium and we don't want to put in records that link to databases that only our library users have access to (there are 25 libraries in the consortium and they do not share database access). I think the perfect solution is a weblist on the library's homepage, which is accessible to users at a computer, in or out of the building. Also, if you keep the serial information in MS Access, it is easy to download and maintain lists of serials in FT Databases. All the vendors have files of their holdings that you can download and import into MS Access in seconds. Buddy Pennington Acquisitions/Serials Librarian Rockhurst University Greenlease Library buddy.pennington@rockhurst.edu #816-501-4143 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Serials Holdings Lists -- Christina Liggins Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:23:36 -0800 From: Carol Morse <MorsCa@wwc.edu> Quite a number of years ago, a staff member entered our serials holdings into Word Perfect files. Every year before school starts, we go in the update the changes which have been entered in red ink in 2 of the departmental copies. There are other copies up in the lobby near the computers and in our reading room. It was very labor-intensive to begin with, but not so bad to update it every year. Last summer, we added notations for full text for the journals we have that are FT from EbscoHost. We will do Proquest this summer. We just don't worry about listing the ones offered on full-text that we never got. This has been useful, because we dropped a few which were not used a lot in favor of full-text. So when someone complains, we point them to EbscoHost. It's easier to look in a notebook than to log onto the online catalog just to see if we have a certain title. We bind some of them in red buckrum or put them in bright red plastic binders. So they are unofficially called "The Red Book." Hope this helps. Carol
