Re: EBSCO free magazines (16 messages) Birdie MacLennan 05 Jan 2000 20:58 UTC

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Date:         Wed, 5 Jan 2000 13:13:57 -0600
From:         Dana Belcher <dbelcher@MAILCLERK.ECOK.EDU>
Subject:      EBSCO free magazines -Reply

We catalog those we need and would probably continue to subscribe to in
the future.  The others get recycled!

Dana Belcher, Periodicals/Acquisitions Librarian
East Central University
Linscheid Library
200 S. Stadium Drive
Ada, OK 74820
580-310-5564
<dbelcher@MAILCLERK.ECOK.EDU>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karen Chobot [SMTP:chobot@PLAINS.NODAK.EDU]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 11:01 AM
> To:   SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU
> Subject:      EBSCO free magazines
>
> Lately, EBSCO has taken to sending us free subscriptions to magazines,
> apparently as an appreciation gift.  I have written to them twice asking
> them not to do this, as the items sent are fairly marginal to our
> collection and I don't want to bother with cataloging them or dealing with
> them.  If they really want to give us an appreciation gift, they could
> reduce the service fee!
>
> Are any of the rest of you getting these, and how are you handling them?
> I hate to throw them out, but I really don't need YM...
>
> Maybe if the EBSCO folks see comments here, they might reconsider their
> program.
>
> Thanks, Karen.
>
> Karen M. Chobot, MS, MLS
> Reference/Serials Librarian
> Mildred Johnson Library
> North Dakota State College of Science
> 800 N. 6th St.
> Wahpeton ND 58076
> 701/671-2385
> <chobot@PLAINS.NODAK.EDU>
>
> "I know, my dear Watson, that you share my love of all that is bizarre and
> outside the conventions and humdrum routine of daily life."  Sherlock
> Holmes, in "The Red-Headed League."

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Date:         Wed, 5 Jan 2000 13:17:31 -0600
From:         Carrie Ferm <alicf@AUGUSTANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: EBSCO free magazines

Hello

We are also getting about 9 different titles from Ebsco as  an
"appreciation" gift.  With many titles, we get 2 copies of the same issue.
I have contacted them to ask them to remove my name, but it does no good.
Since there are several that do not fit our curriculum at all, I usually
recycle them.  I was going to put them on backserv, but if many of you are
also getting these titles, that doesn't seem like such a useful idea.

Carrie Ferm
Augustana College Library
Periodical Section
Rock Island, Il  61201

Phone:  (309)794-7316   Fax: (309) 794-7230
e-mail: alicf@loki.augustana.edu

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Date:         Wed, 5 Jan 2000 13:25:53 -0600
From:         Buddy Pennington <buddy.pennington@ROCKHURST.EDU>
Subject:      Re: EBSCO free magazines

Karen,

We have gotten them for two or three titles (one being YM).  The funny thing
is that we don't use EBSCO.  We've been using Faxon for several years now!

Since they don't relate to our users' needs, we just throw them out on a
give-away table that we use for journals and books we don't need.

I haven't bothered to contact EBSCO about it at this point.

Buddy Pennington
Acquisitions/Serials Librarian
Rockhurst University Greenlease Library
buddy.pennington@rockhurst.edu
#816-501-4143
<buddy.pennington@ROCKHURST.EDU>

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Date:         Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:28:03 -0500
From:         Betty Bunt <bbunt@HOUGHTON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: EBSCO free magazines

My sentiments exactly!

Betty Bunt
Houghton College
Technical Services Coordinator & Serials Librarian

email: bbunt@houghton.edu
voice: 716-567-9247
fax:  716-567-9248

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Date:         Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:30:41 -0500
From:         Donna Sue Yanney <dyanney@MAIL.GCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: EBSCO free magazines

We've been getting them too ... Fitness, YM, ESPN, etc.  Not only that for
us, though, we get two copies because somehow EBSCO has two addresses for
us.  I haven't tried complaining about the freebies, nor have I added them
to the collection, but they are favorites with the student workers.

Donna

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Donna Sue Yanney, Serials Librarian
Ina Dillard Russell Library
Georgia College & State University
Campus Box 043
Milledgeville, GA  31061

Voice   912.445.5573
Fax      912.445.6847

"There's no place like home."  --Dorothy

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Date:         Wed, 5 Jan 2000 13:34:07 -0600
From:         Peter Picerno <ppicerno@CHOCTAW.ASTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: EBSCO free magazines

Karen,

I also got a notice that we would be getting a courtesy subscription to a
magazine which was of no value to our collection. I wrote them back and
asked that they *not* send it to us ... since the year is so new, we'll see
if they've honored my request. Like you, I would be much more appreciative
of a reduction in service fee or in better communication from their office.
Or if they really wanted to show their appreciation, maybe they'd underwrite
one science or technology subscription -- preferably one published by one of
the big bad commercial firms!! (incidentally, please reply to me offline
and, if you would, let me know what your service fee is!).

Peter

Dr. Peter V. Picerno
Collection Development Team Leader
Dean B. Ellis Library
Arkansas State University
State University, AR 72467
(870) 972-3078
Fax: (870) 972-3199
<ppicerno@CHOCTAW.ASTATE.EDU>

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Date:         Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:34:32 -0500
From:         Michelle Sitko <sitko@MARYWOOD1.MARYWOOD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: EBSCO free magazines

Re: Freebies.  You are not alone. I thanked Ebsco for their offers, and
then asked them to stop sending them our way as well. --Michelle

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Date:         Wed, 5 Jan 2000 13:35:07 -0600
From:         Tricia Wilke <twilke@CENTAUR.CC.PURDUENC.EDU>
Organization: Purdue University North Central
Subject:      Re: EBSCO free magazines

We have also been receiving free subscriptions from EBSCO.  We're a
small enough place that we don't have to worry about cataloging them.
Mostly, we just set them out in our periodicals room as "freebies" for
the students to look at in between classes.  If they get stolen, no
great loss.  If it's actually an "informative" gift subscription, we put
them on our periodical shelves with a label, but do not catalog them (no
knowing if the subscription will continue).  We'll check in about a year
to see usage on those particular magazines.

--
Tricia Wilke
Technical Services Librarian
Purdue University North Central Library
1401 South US 421/LSF Building
Westville, IN 46391
(219) 785-5234
(219) 785-5501 (fax)
twilke@centaur.cc.purduenc.edu

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Date:         Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:37:21 -0500
From:         Dolores Coyle <Coyled@CAMELOT.BEAVER.EDU>
Subject:      FW: EBSCO free magazines

I give the freebies to my student workers.

Dolores Coyle

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Date:         Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:38:20 -0500
From:         Bernadette Jones <bjones@SMCVT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: EBSCO free magazines

We also have been getting these free magazines.  It is my assumption that
EBSCO has sold their mailing list to these magazine publishers, who are
now sending us free issues in order to entice us to subscribe.
(Apologies to EBSCO if I am wrong).  Most of these magazines are, in my
opinion, shallow and superficial in content, but that's another story.
In the meantime, I have been giving them away to staff and students.

Bernadette Jones
Periodicals Department
Saint Michael's College
Library & Information Services
Winooski Park
Colchester, VT  05439

e-mail: bjones@smcvt.edu
Phone: 802-654-2404

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Date:         Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:43:40 -0500
From:         Katie Hanrahan/Serials Specialist <KHANRAHAN@ESCHER.DNET.CUYAHOGA.LIB.OH.US>
Subject:      Re: EBSCO free magazines

We have been getting these freebies also. I have asked Ebsco on numerous
occasions to please stop but they don't seem to be able to. So, I simply
send a copy of the mailing label to my Ebsco rep and write "CANCEL" on
it. This usually works, though it may take a month or two.

Katie Hanrahan
Serials Librarian
Cuyahoga County Public Library
2111 Snow Road
Parma, OH 44134
(216)749-9534
(216)749-9445 (fax)
khanrahan@cuyahoga.lib.oh.us

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Date:         Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:49:00 -0500
From:         Martha Spicuzza <Martha.Spicuzza@HILLSDALE.EDU>
Subject:      EBSCO free magazines

Our library has also received complimentary subscriptions from EBSCO that
we are not going to add to our collection.  Maybe they do this to
replenish their missing copy bank, which is where YM, Fitness, ESPN The
Magazine (2 copies) and American Heritage (4 copies) are going.  Be sure
to request a refund of the shipping charges.

While it is a nice gesture on EBSCO's part, it is becoming a nuisance.

Martha Spicuzza
Technical Services Librarian/Serials
Hillsdale College Mossey Library
Hillsdale, MI 49242
517-437-0795
<Martha.Spicuzza@HILLSDALE.EDU>

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Date:         Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:58:52 -0500
From:         Louise Pierce <lpierce@EAGLE.YCP.EDU>
Subject:      Re: EBSCO free magazines

I agree that this is a problem and I contacted EBSCO when we got notice of
receiving YM.  I don't like to look a gift horse in the mouth and I told
them that, but YM is really not an academic title.  Same for ESPN
Magazine.  The third title offered is American Heritage which we already
subscribe to through EBSCO.  The person I talked to explained that it was
a different division of EBSCO that is doing this.  So what? I think we got
YM stopped and will shelve the current issue only of ESPN and will not
catalogue it.  We haven't seen the extra American Heritage yet to have to
decide.

It's a nice gesture, but I too, would simply like a smaller charge.

Louise Pierce

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        Louise Pierce
    Periodicals Specialist
 York College of Pennsylvania
     York, PA 17405-7199
        (717)815-1758
       lpierce@ycp.edu
      fax (717)849-1608
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Date:         Wed, 5 Jan 2000 15:17:54 -0500
From:         Steve Black <blacks@MAIL.STROSE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: EBSCO free magazines

I would guess, but do not know for a fact, that EBSCO is sending these as
a way to increase the publications' circulation figures.  The titles my
library is receiving in this "A Gift for You!" program clearly get their
revenue from advertising, not from subscriptions.  I presume the
publishers are enlisting EBSCO's help to boost circulation.  Who knows
what, if any, remuneration EBSCO is receiving for doing this.

The latest we're receiving is "ESPN The Magazine".  Calling it "fairly
marginal to our collection" would be a charitable way of describing it.

I'm just tossing them, along with the loads of other dross that inevitably
come to a serials department.  To me, it's just a minor annoyance.  If it is
helping EBSCO make ends meet, I don't begrudge them.  However, I would
definitely agree that if you asked them not to send them, EBSCO should
respect your wishes.

Steve Black
Reference, Instruction, and Serials Librarian
Neil Hellman Library
The College of Saint Rose
392 Western Ave.
Albany, NY 12203
(518) 458-5494
blacks@mail.strose.edu

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Date:         Wed, 5 Jan 2000 15:21:43 -0500
From:         Dani Lichtenberg <p005386b@PB.SEFLIN.ORG>
Subject:      Re: EBSCO free magazines (fwd)

Karen, I would like to respond to your recent message to the list:

I would like to stand up and be counted amongst the group of libraries
that is receiving this unwelcome appreciation gift.  We are actually
receiving multiple copies of several different titles, that are addressed
to various staffmembers.  We are marking them as duplicates and putting
them in the employee breakroom.

We have tried to stop these subscriptions.  EBSCO gave us a name and
address to contact, who informed us that we'd have to collect labels
from the unwanted titles, and send these in with a request to cease
delivery.  We did this but the titles are still coming in.

Someone is wasting alot of magazines!  And alot of our time.

Dani Lichtenberg
Serials Supervisor
Palm Beach County Library System
p005386b@pb.seflin.org

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Date:         Wed, 5 Jan 2000 13:18:55 -0800
From:         Linda Harding <lindah@ELMHURST.EDU>
Subject:      Re: EBSCO free magazines

We, too, have been receiving EBSCO's free subscriptions.  Not wanting to
seem ungrateful, I have said nothing, but, like you, we are not able to
use the subscriptions we receive.  I have been posting them on "backserv".
It would be a nice gesture if EBSCO would give us a choice or ask what we
would find helpful.

Linda Harding
Periodicals Assistant
Elmhurst College Library
Elmhurst, IL
<lindah@ELMHURST.EDU>