As Christina mentioned, some states had union lists of serials back in the 1980s or 1990s.  Generally one institution had a grant and the staff to input the LHRs on behalf of everyone in the state.  Unfortunately, it was an unfunded mandate.  Once the LHRs were in, it was up to the institutions to maintain their own holdings, and some didn’t have the staff to do so, or had bigger priorities.   

 

Now that we migrated to OCLC WMS, our OCLC LHRs _are_ our local holdings, and they are a mess after migration, which was expected.  But, we don’t have duplicative holdings anymore, and the migration clean-up has also been the impetus for us to fix long-time holdings errors.  I agree with Steve and Kevin about weighing priorities, and that electronic resources are a bigger concern.  We’ve never had robust lend/reproduce/reserves permissions set-up in our ILS/LMS for our continuations, and that’s of higher importance than our print holdings. 

 

-          Kay

 

Kay G. Johnson

Head of Collection and Technical Services

McConnell Library, Radford University

540-831-5703 <kjohnson497@radford.edu>

 

From: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@LISTSERV.NASIG.ORG] On Behalf Of Steve Oberg
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 3:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [SERIALST] LHRs

 

I’m glad that Kevin mentioned the automated approach of uploading or updating holdings. I know this is available as an option and if we ever do wish to rectify our situation, that’s the approach we’ll take, similar to what Robert mentioned. Note however the mention of substantial staff resources, which is important.

 

Regardless, as I sometimes call it, this is a BFTF situation. BFTF = Bigger Fish to Fry.

 

Please know that I understand and appreciate the value of ILL and I also know that our local decision is detrimental for ILL. However, we are all given a set of choices to make locally based on all kinds of factors. The reality is that the BFTF in our case, and I suspect in many other libraries, is ejournals and other e-resources, not print journals. We are down to around 300ish titles (I’m not sure we’ll ever get much below that figure but we’ll see) and have been focused primarily on procuring electronic subscriptions whenever possible. We have 6-7,000 such titles (a conservative figure, and not counting things available via aggregators), and this is where the predominant demand and use are to be found. It seemed logical to me that given limited staffing resources, we should refocus our efforts, that ensuring that smooth and reliable access to our online content should be our top priority. We could continue to dot every i and cross every t for our dwindling print journals or we could prioritize online stuff. We couldn’t do both and it was an easy choice.

 

Does someone, somewhere pay when we cut back in a certain area? Yes. Because we are doing this, does that mean it’s the right thing for every library? No, not necessarily.

 

Going back for a second to the automated or batch load…Honestly, I think that’d be great but even so there are still BFTFs for us locally. I’m fed up with and am constantly seeking was to reduce the amount of duplicative maintenance work my staff does. In our case, the batch load might be workable but it’s is still yet another thing we would have to monitor and attend to over time, and also in our case, I happen to know that it wouldn’t be a slam dunk. Meaning, we’d run into problems due to historical practices.

 

With apologies for all of the colloquialisms but without an apology for making some hard decisions,

 

Steve

 

On Jun 21, 2017, at 2:05 PM, Robert J. Rendall <rr2205@COLUMBIA.EDU> wrote:

 

We actively maintain our holdings in our local system only.  I'm not directly involved, but my understanding is that we send a monthly file of new or modified holdings to OCLC to update our LHRs there.  Developing this process took substantial staff resources but it was seen as worthwhile because of the ILL factor.


Robert Rendall

Principal Serials Cataloger

Original and Special Materials Cataloging, Columbia University Libraries

102 Butler Library, 535 West 114th Street, New York, NY 10027

tel.: 212 851 2449  fax: 212 854 5167

 

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Kevin M Randall <kmr@northwestern.edu> wrote:

I'm on the same side as Steve regarding this matter. Maintaining serials holdings in our own local system is already quite labor-intensive as it is, so I just cannot imagine having to double the effort by also maintaining OCLC LHRs. Thus, in our situation, automated batch loads would be the only method I could see as justified.

 

Kevin M. Randall

Principal Serials Cataloger

Northwestern University Libraries

Northwestern University

www.library.northwestern.edu

kmr@northwestern.edu

847.491.2939

 

Proudly wearing the sensible shoes since 1978!

 

 

From: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@LISTSERV.NASIG.ORG] On Behalf Of Steve Oberg
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 12:49 PM


To: SERIALST@LISTSERV.NASIG.ORG
Subject: Re: [SERIALST] LHRs

 

 

Christina is right that LHRs make ILL people happy. But ours were never consistently maintained to begin with and are therefore misleading at best, and I’m also not convinced that it makes good sense to do such double-work just for the sake of ILL. We already have too many places where we are either cleaning up or doing double-work and as much as I think ILL is important, I am not sure it justifies us doing so much extra. ILL would like us to continue to do serials check-in, for example, but we stopped doing that at my direction some years ago for similar reasons.

 

Now I’ll go sit in my corner and prepare to duck the various objects that ILL people may wish to throw at me.

 

Steve

 

On Jun 21, 2017, at 12:35 PM, McCawley, Christina <CMcCawley@WCUPA.EDU> wrote:

 

I’m on the other side of this issue because our ILL people really want that Holdings data in WorldCat.  So I do both. 

 

Christina McCawley

West Chester University

25 W. Rosedale Ave.

West Chester, PA 19383

 

From: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@LISTSERV.NASIG.ORG] On Behalf Of Steve Oberg
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 1:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [SERIALST] LHRs

 

Heck yeah. 

 

I’m not interested in maintaining holdings data in two places (at least) — WorldCat AND our local ILS (Voyager). There are a few local edge cases where we do but otherwise, I delete LHRs and instruct my staff to delete them whenever they come across them.

 

Steve

 

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