Hi All,
Have you ever heard of “Perpetual access? It might be an issue for us if we discontinue online subscriptions in the future. We have a few Ingenta subscriptions too don’t we? Maybe those links will not work soon.
Mike Saunders,
Serials Officer,
National Gallery of Canada
380 Sussex Drive
PO Box 427, Station A,
Ottawa, Ontario
K1N 9N4
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From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@list.uvm.edu] On Behalf Of Pamela Contakos
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I receive TESOL Quarterly online and it is a very important title for our programs. Recently it switched from Ingenta to Wiley. After quite a bit of wrangling with Wiley to set up the online access to it I discovered that I was missing 13 years of coverage that I had previously had with Ingenta. After a long wait for a reply from them, this is what I heard today:
“I have checked and can confirm that online access to this journal is available only at Wiley Online Library.
All subscribers with online access to any journal are entitled to the following benefits:
- Archival access to content dating back 5 years during the subscription year 2011 (i.e. access to content from 2007 to 2011 during the subscription year 2011)
- Perpetual access to the paid-for year (i.e. maintain access to 2011 content if subscription ceases in 2012)
Your online access content is only available as far back as 2007.
The access to back volumes now have to be purchased They are no longer available free of charge as was with the previous publisher and Ingenta.”
Has anyone else encountered this with Wiley? Are you paying for the back issues?
Not with Wiley, but I’ve been having a similar discussion with another
provider that took over Ingenta-hosted titles.
My argument is: Suppose my library, on the expectation of continued
access to the content we had with Ingenta, had withdrawn our print
volumes for the covered years?
You may answer, well, you shouldn’t have done that! You lose!
To which I reply, I guess we should have considered the possibility that
our titles would be taken over by some bad guy provider … which is kind
of what you are, if you do this. If our access to the specified content was
already paid for, you are making us pay twice for the same content.
Since you agreed to take over these titles, you have a responsibility to
the subscribers, do you not?
By the way, this other provider has agreed to provide access to the years
for which we can provide proof of payment. That agreement is not all we
hoped for, since we actually cannot provide proof of payment for all the
years we feel we are entitled to … but it’s a compromise, at least. SW
Susan Wishnetsky
Collection Management Librarian
Galter Health Sciences Library
Feinberg School of Medicine, Northwestern University
303 East Chicago Avenue
Chicago, Illinois 60611
Phone: 312-503-9351 | FAX 312-503-2678
E-mail: pasiphae@northwestern.edu
Pamela Contakos
Director of Libraries and Academic Resources
SIT Study Abroad/SIT Graduate Institute, programs of World Learning
1 Kipling Road, PO Box 676, Brattleboro, VT 05302-0676
Phone:+1 802 258-3356 | email: Pamela.Contakos@sit.edu
Skype: pamela.contakos