RE: [comets-ml] 2007 HE4
rmiles.btee@btinternet.com
(28 Jul 2024 15:19 UTC)
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RE: [comets-ml] 2007 HE4
rmiles.btee@btinternet.com
(28 Jul 2024 15:48 UTC)
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Re: [comets-ml] 2007 HE4 Maik Meyer (28 Jul 2024 16:38 UTC)
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Re: [BAA Comets] Re: [comets-ml] 2007 HE4
Nick James
(28 Jul 2024 21:36 UTC)
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RE: [BAA Comets] Re: [comets-ml] 2007 HE4
Jonathan Shanklin - BAS
(29 Jul 2024 07:25 UTC)
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Re: [BAA Comets] Re: [comets-ml] 2007 HE4
Maik Meyer
(29 Jul 2024 08:03 UTC)
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Re: [BAA Comets] Re: [comets-ml] 2007 HE4
Nick James
(29 Jul 2024 08:32 UTC)
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Re: [BAA Comets] Re: [comets-ml] 2007 HE4
Nick James
(31 Jul 2024 11:24 UTC)
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RE: [BAA Comets] Re: [comets-ml] 2007 HE4
Jonathan Shanklin - BAS
(31 Jul 2024 11:36 UTC)
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Re: [BAA Comets] Re: [comets-ml] 2007 HE4
James Dawson
(05 Aug 2024 14:06 UTC)
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Re: [BAA Comets] Re: [comets-ml] 2007 HE4
Nick James
(05 Aug 2024 23:05 UTC)
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Hello Richard, > O.K. Sam - I hadn’t picked up the fact that the spread of observations during the 30-day arc was very poor. That > explains it in that the MPC and JPL ephemerides are different because of the actual observations employed along with any > weighting factors, etc. also differ. > > Given Maik’s linkage, when do you think we can expect the new orbit to be published so that we can then plan an > observing campaign to recover the object? Personally, I think the linkage is safe. It would be a very big coincidence to have 2007 HE4 moving on a perfectly fitted arc of one month without systematic deviations which are usually a tell-tale sign of an incorrect link. I have also checked several logbooks of observatories for possible observations, especially of the favourable apparition of 1963/64, but was not successful. Elizabeth Roemer missed it by 2.3 degrees on 1964 Feb 4, when she was imaging 59P/Kearns-Kwee. Denning would have been then maybe of magnitude 14-15. Unfortunately, 1964 not many surveys were operating, POSS I was already over. But it is not astonishing to miss such a faint comet, there are many which have been missed that were even brighter. I think the final decision will be the next perihelion. It is not perfect but also not awfully bad and it may reach 18 mag or brighter. Here's an orbit for this epoch. Orbital elements: D/1894 F1 Perihelion 2025 Dec 4.06727 TT = 1:36:52 (JD 2461013.56727) A1: -3.83e-9 A2: 3.58e-10 AU/day^2 Epoch 2025 Dec 1.0 TT = JDT 2461010.5 Earth MOID: 0.5820 Ju: 0.0606 M 359.67526526 Ma: 0.0222 Meyer n 0.10587093 Peri. 109.41912 a 4.42538997 Node 20.62196 e 0.6471858 Incl. 4.02545 (J2000 ecliptic) P 9.31 H 15.0 G 0.15 q 1.56134008 Q 7.28943986 242 of 312 observations 1894 Mar. 27-2007 May 18; mean residual 3".28 I think it would be good to publish an orbit for folks to be aware and try to recover it early. Regards Maik -- "One cannot discover comets lying in bed." * Lewis Swift ________________________________________________________________________ https://www.comethunter.de *** @skymorph.bsky.social