29P coma features
Peter Tickner
(23 Nov 2020 17:38 UTC)
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Re: [BAA Comets] 29P coma features
denis buczynski
(23 Nov 2020 18:02 UTC)
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Re: [BAA Comets] 29P coma features
Nick James
(23 Nov 2020 22:22 UTC)
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Re: [BAA Comets] 29P coma features
Nick Haigh
(24 Nov 2020 09:13 UTC)
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Re: [BAA Comets] 29P coma features
Thomas Lehmann
(24 Nov 2020 18:24 UTC)
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Re: [BAA Comets] 29P coma features
Nick James
(24 Nov 2020 20:38 UTC)
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RE: [BAA Comets] 29P coma features
Peter Carson
(24 Nov 2020 21:23 UTC)
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Re: [BAA Comets] 29P coma features
Richard Miles
(24 Nov 2020 23:14 UTC)
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Re: [BAA Comets] 29P coma features Thomas Lehmann (26 Nov 2020 16:40 UTC)
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Thanks for this plausible explaination and for Peters confirmation of the outer coma! Keep on watching this nice object (though the moon is interfering for the next few days). > Am Tue, 24 Nov 2020 23:14:04 -0000 > schrieb Richard Miles - rmiles.btee at btinternet.com (via baa-comet list) <baa-comet@simplelists.com>: > > Thomas Lehmann wrote: > > At this low resolution (about 4") I cannot get much detail in the inner > > outburst coma. But I'd like to draw your attention to the huge outer coma, > > extending at least 4 arcmin away from the nucleus. Its asymmetric shape > > does follow the inner coma to some degree so it might be related > > to the current outburst and not be a leftover of some previous one. > > Is it expected to have some material ejected at a much higher velocity > > than what you derive from the size of inner coma? > > Or is the comet sitting within a longer living cloud of dust? > > The extended outer coma of 29P is the sum total of many outbursts in which > debris, dust and other particles have been accelerated by gas created from > each outburst such that their velocities exceed the escape velocity from the > gravitational attraction of the large (60-70 km) nucleus. The range of net > velocities involved (after slowed by gravity) range from almost zero to > around 200-250 m/s. So the extended coma will be an integrated quantity from > the last few years of outbursts. > > It is relatively straightforward to calculate the maximum velocity of > sub-micron dust in this way as it is related to the Maxwell-Boltzmann > distribution of speeds exhibited by gas molecules at the particular > temperature of the gas. For 29P we can assume that the gas has a molecular > weight of CO and N2. The temperature of the gas is very low because it is > produced when solar radiation warms CO, etc. ice that is ejected by the > cryo-eruption - around 25-30K if my memory serves me correctly - sometimes > this is called the sublimation temperature of the solid ice in question. I > can refer you to the section in one of my Icarus papers from 2016. > > Don't forget that at a distance of around 5 AU, 4 arcmin equates to about > 900,000 km. Of course solar radiation presure and the solar wind shape the > size of the outer coma. It would be a good project for amateurs to try to > map the intensity of the outer coma by stacking several hours of images when > the comet is far from the Milky Way and see how it relates to previous > strong outbursts. There is a paper from several decades ago which quoted > something like one-third of the Zodiacal (interplanetary) dust can be > accounted for by 29P's outbursts. Indirect evidence suggests that the object > we call 29P has been active for at least 800 years. > > Richard > > > > To unsubscribe from this list please go to http://www.simplelists.com/confirm.php?u=ejkIXNOpiaInV9cTLVx8YU5CDmRH7pNd