C/2019 Y4 on May 16
Nick James
(17 May 2020 07:33 UTC)
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RE: [BAA Comets] C/2019 Y4 on May 16
Andrew Robertson
(17 May 2020 08:38 UTC)
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RE: [BAA Comets] C/2019 Y4 on May 16
Owen Brazell
(17 May 2020 09:55 UTC)
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Re: [BAA Comets] C/2019 Y4 on May 16
denis buczynski
(17 May 2020 10:24 UTC)
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RE: [BAA Comets] C/2019 Y4 on May 16
Andrew Robertson
(17 May 2020 10:38 UTC)
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Comet D/2019 Y4 ... RIP !
Richard Miles
(19 May 2020 14:37 UTC)
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Re: [BAA Comets] Comet D/2019 Y4 ... RIP !
Nick James
(19 May 2020 20:05 UTC)
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Re: [BAA Comets] Comet D/2019 Y4 ... RIP ! Denis Buczynski (19 May 2020 22:15 UTC)
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Re: [BAA Comets] Comet D/2019 Y4 ... RIP !
Richard Miles
(19 May 2020 22:39 UTC)
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Re: [BAA Comets] Comet D/2019 Y4 ... RIP !
Nick James
(21 May 2020 07:11 UTC)
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Re: [BAA Comets] Comet D/2019 Y4 ... RIP !
Richard Miles
(20 May 2020 11:42 UTC)
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One farewell image of the remnant of Comet C/2019 Y4 (ATLAS)
Richard Miles
(21 May 2020 01:03 UTC)
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Nick, I am not sure if you have had the attached astrometry of C/2019Y4 from me. These are all measures taken when the individual components has faded and I was reporting only as C/2019Y4 and not as component B. If you have had these from me sorry for sending them again. Denis CK19Y040 KC2020 04 22.91287 05 50 07.27 +63 26 23.1 15.9 R I81 CK19Y040 KC2020 04 22.91943 05 50 05.66 +63 26 14.3 15.9 R I81 CK19Y040 KC2020 04 22.92744 05 50 03.61 +63 26 03.6 15.9 R I81 CK19Y040 KC2020 04 23.92956 05 45 50.68 +63 03 40.3 15.9 R I81 CK19Y040 KC2020 04 23.93575 05 45 49.13 +63 03 32.1 15.9 R I81 CK19Y040 KC2020 04 23.94195 05 45 47.62 +63 03 23.4 15.9 R I81 CK19Y040 KC2020 04 24.93205 05 41 42.24 +62 40 37.4 16.0 R I81 CK19Y040 KC2020 04 24.93569 05 41 41.35 +62 40 32.2 15.9 R I81 CK19Y040 KC2020 04 24.93933 05 41 40.50 +62 40 27.1 15.9 R I81 CK19Y040 KC2020 04 26.94884 05 33 34.04 +61 52 08.2 16.0 R I81 CK19Y040 KC2020 05 04.98856 05 02 21.94 +58 01 28.3 15.1 R I81 CK19Y040 KC2020 05 04.99217 05 02 21.07 +58 01 20.6 15.2 R I81 CK19Y040 KC2020 05 04.99578 05 02 20.26 +58 01 13.2 15.2 R I81 CK19Y040 KC2020 05 05.97184 04 58 32.86 +57 27 32.9 14.8 R I81 CK19Y040 KC2020 05 05.97550 04 58 32.01 +57 27 25.1 14.8 R I81 CK19Y040 KC2020 05 05.98062 04 58 30.84 +57 27 14.6 14.8 R I81 CK19Y040 C2020 05 06.96532 04 54 40.08 +56 51 32.4 14.7 R I81 CK19Y040 C2020 05 06.97045 04 54 38.88 +56 51 20.8 14.6 R I81 CK19Y040 C2020 05 06.97484 04 54 37.82 +56 51 10.8 14.6 R I81 CK19Y040 C2020 05 06.97850 04 54 37.01 +56 51 02.3 14.4 R I81 CK19Y040 KC2020 05 10.95352 04 38 44.83 +54 05 02.8 12.7 R I81 CK19Y040 KC2020 05 10.95678 04 38 44.07 +54 04 53.4 13.5 R I81 CK19Y040 KC2020 05 10.97649 04 38 39.31 +54 03 57.6 12.3 R I81 CK19Y040 C2020 05 11.95980 04 34 37.66 +53 16 08.6 12.6 R I81 CK19Y040 C2020 05 11.96125 04 34 37.34 +53 16 04.4 12.6 R I81 CK19Y040 C2020 05 11.96342 04 34 36.75 +53 15 57.2 12.6 R I81 CK19Y040 C2020 05 11.96632 04 34 36.02 +53 15 49.4 12.8 R I81 CK19Y040 C2020 05 15.01183 04 21 52.49 +50 25 02.2 13.4 R I81 CK19Y040 C2020 05 15.01335 04 21 52.08 +50 24 56.6 13.5 R I81 CK19Y040 C2020 05 15.01524 04 21 51.59 +50 24 48.9 13.4 R I81 CK19Y040 C2020 05 15.01675 04 21 51.25 +50 24 43.7 13.6 R I81 CK19Y040 C2020 05 15.01863 04 21 50.77 +50 24 36.3 13.5 R I81 On 19/05/2020 21:05, Nick James wrote: > Richard, > > I think that your image fairly conclusively shows that this has become > an ex-comet! Your analysis is interesting although separation at 100 m/s > would imply a very violent fragmentation. > > Astrometric residuals are attached for the observations that I have > access to. I'm not sure they tell us much at this stage. These are all > nominally for component B. No NGFs have been included and the orbit has > a mean residual of 0".47 using observations from April 9 (when fragment > B was first measurable) to May 9 (shortly after the outburst that > probably destroyed it). Measurements after that date have not been > included in the orbit solution and the centroids are probably biased in > any case. > > If anyone would like to submit astrometry of component B which is not in > this list please do so and I'll run the solution again. > > Nick. > > > On 19/05/2020 15:36, Richard Miles - rmiles.btee at btinternet.com (via > baa-comet list) wrote: >> Hopefully the attached demonstrates that the comet has now disintegrated. >> >> Some thin cloud was around last night and it never turned into a >> properly clear night but as the target was circumpolar at the time I >> was still able to follow it for a couple of hours as it tracked along >> my northern horizon some 26 degrees from the Sun. >> >> We can now see the result of the outburst on May 8. Although Component >> B, the most massive part of the comet, appeared to have survived that >> outburst, this was an illusion as we now know it disintegrated and >> although we could see a bright pseudonucleus at that location on May >> 9-16, we were just witnessing the expanding debris cloud. Of much more >> interest is what happened to the solid body of B. It appears that >> there was an explosive event on May 8 that blew a considerable mass of >> material sunwards at speeds of 80-100 m/s. >> >> The ejected material comprised a leading body with debris trailing >> behind it (see my email of May 16). The leading body disintegrated as >> a consequence of this energetic event. If we do astrometry on >> Component B up until it disappeared, we may see that it was slowed >> slightly following the outburst - a necessary result of conservation >> of momentum. So although we measure the separation velocity to be >> 80-100 m/s, we need to do the astrometry to see how the change in >> velocity was shared between the two 'fragments'. >> >> Richard >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick James" <ndj@nickdjames.com> >> To: <baa-comet@simplelists.com> >> Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 7:33 AM >> Subject: [BAA Comets] C/2019 Y4 on May 16 >> >> >>> I think we can safely say that C/2019 Y4 will soon be redesignated >>> D/2019 Y4. It faded another 0.5 magnitudes from May 15.9 to 16.9 and >>> there is no photocentre left for astrometry. All that we see now is two >>> fading trails of debris. >>> >>> It is a very challenging target now as it dives towards the northern >>> horizon but please keep imaging it if you can. >>> >>> Nick. >>> To unsubscribe from this list please go to >>> http://archives.simplelists.com >> To unsubscribe from this list please go to >> http://archives.simplelists.com > > To unsubscribe from this list please go to > http://www.simplelists.com/confirm.php?u=84DaaiYdFchdU7PSXxyFQSrcU927LNSI